no real accomplishment in the u.s. senate. so i looked at this is background, a community organize, with a.c.o.r.n., hangs out with some pretty radical people. i tried to warn people a little bit. you kind of summed up how i feel now four years after him being president. you said, he's the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the american people. i think this story's going to be written and, you know... i just -- i don't think, for some reason people got caught up in 2008 and it seems many are still caught up today. your reaction? >> well, there are people -- and a lot of -- a lot of people who are -- who feel... dissatisfied, from voting for him last time are afraid to admit that they maybe made a mistake. it's better to be overly defensive and just say, i am voting for him again. i try to give people, when i was at the rnc, the idea that maybe they could -- they should think about other alternatives. and you know, rather than just promoting a party line. and of course, a lot of people who are on the republican side, who voted f